This WebPage is being updated.

GOOGLE no longer supports it because it is not REMOTE ACCESS FRIENDLY
See the new WebPage at:

New York Central Catskill Mountain Branch

https://penneyandkc.wordpress.com/catskill-mountain-branch/

In addition, WE ARE NOW ADVERTISING FREE

If required, we have updated the new WebPage

Welcome to our Catskill Mountain Railroad WebSite



Catskill Mountain Branch of New York Central, former Ulster & Delaware

Here's a preview of some of the exciting projects we have put together for you:


Our feature article is an extensive history of
The Catskill Mountain Branch

Next, check out the current status of the branch.

Now, find out some more background on the branch. See Why the NY Central acquired the Ulster & Delaware . Read about strange places on the Catskill Mountain Branch . See about Kingston freight schedules . Read how there were once trains from Beantown .

Follow the path of the Catskill Mountain branch on Google Earth .

The Catskills are "snow country. See a story on snow plows on the branch and see our snow railroad pictures section.

Important to the Catskills and the railroad are the reservoirs which are the heart of the New York City water supply .

Milk and express were important on the branch. Learn more about head end equipment operated by the New York Central and see some New York Central Railroad pictures ;
as well as a postcard view of Big Indian .

Don't miss our Reference Section
Bloomville: End of the Line....Sort Of!

See KC Jones BLOG about Railroad History

REFERENCE



List of
New York Railroads
Welcome to Defunct Railroads

Oneonta

Unofficial homepage of the Southern New York Railway

Photos by Peirce Behrendt

A regional tourist guide

MGTRAINZ Quality Trainz Content

Our favorite Short Lines

Interesting Railway Stations

Abandoned Railroads: West Shore, New York State and Other
"Freight and Shipping - The History of the Transcontinental Railroad"

The creation of the transcontinental railroad opened a new chapter in the history of shipping and transportation in the United States. The transcontinental railroad joined the eastern part of the United States with the western part. People and goods began to move with efficiency back and forth across the country. The transcontinental railroad opened up new opportunities for businesses to expand and prosper. People were able to travel to see friends and family like never before. The following takes a look at the history surrounding the transcontinental railroad.

The idea for the transcontinental railroad became reality when the Pacific Railroad Act was signed by President Lincoln in 1862. The tracks of the Union Pacific in the east and the Central Pacific in the west would connect to create the transcontinental railroad. Its construction began in 1863.

Transcontinental railroads and Chicago

In the early 20th Century, the son of Jay Gould attempted to assemble numerous railroads into a transcontinental railroad from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean.

Ulster & Delaware Historical Society

Find out about Commitment and Fair Promise

The Catskill Mountain Branch

September 28, 1976 saw the end of service on the Catskill Mountain Branch of the Penn-Central. Formerly the Ulster & Delaware, it became part of the New York Central during the Great Depression when it went "belly up" financially. The last train ran 74 miles from Stamford to Kingston with GP38-2 no. 8098 leading 36 cars and a caboose. Thus 106 years of life that had begun May 23, 1870 ended when Conrail said "no" to a shippers group.

In downtown Kingston, the switch with the West Shore has been removed but the tracks still head west parallel to Broadway. The building of the West Shore had been a beneficial event for the Ulster & Delaware. Without it, the railroad would have had to depend on the Wallkill Valley and the Erie for connections to New York. The tracks run through fenced in parking lots but are in a deep cut by the time they reach Albany Avenue.

Earlier, the Ulster & Delaware had crossed the West Shore and gone down the hill to Kingston Point (Rondout Station). Kingston Point had been a river boat landing in the late 1800s. Other out-of-service and abandoned rail lines in the area are the Wallkill Valley Branch (former Erie; former New York Central) and the New York Ontario & Western's Ellenville & Kingston Railroad. The climb to the city of Kingston is 190 feet in three miles and had the railroad's only tunnel. Except for a trolley museum, most of this trackage is out of service. When I visited Kingston on a below-zero February day, the trolley museum was closed, but it was evident where it ran in good weather. In the 1986 season, it was running a Brill car from the museum to the Hudson River. The museum is located on the site of the Ulster & Delaware shops. It is near the Kingston Maritime Center which hopefully is helpful in gathering tourists. I was really surprised that my usually-accurate JIMAPCO map of the area did not disclose the trolley museum. Some of their equipment (Staten Island Rapid Transit cars, etc) is stored in the North Kingston yards of the West Shore (Conrail).

Leaving Kingston, the Catskill Mountain Branch follows Route 28. Climbing a hill just west of Kingston to West Hurley, there is no sign of activity, but the roadbed is clearly evident. That hill just west of Kingston must have been a tough one in the days of steam. Between 1911 and 1913, eleven miles of track were relocated due to construction of a dam on the Esopus ten miles west of Kingston. Several towns once served by the railroad are now covered by the waters of the Ashokan Reservoir. The new station at West Hurley was the only modern building on the railroad.

At the top of the hill about 10 miles west of Kingston, near the Ashokan Reservoir, I spot a motorized section car labeled "Catskill Mountain Road". Near Shokan is an old caboose used as a visitors center. This area of the line near Phoenicia is used in the summer as a "tubers trolley". A very popular sport on the Esopus River is tubing down the rapids near Phoenicia on large rubber tubes. The "trolley" is simply the motorized section car, or "track speeder", pulling trailer loads of tubers back up the tracks which run alongside the river so they can tube back down again. The whole thing is only 4 or 5 miles long and runs between Phoenicia and Mount Pleasant.

The railroad, with tracks still intact, runs through Shandaken and Grand Hotel Station. Grand Hotel Station at 1886 feet above sea level is the highest elevation on the line. Grand Hotel itself was owned by the U&D. At one time, narrow gauge railroads ran 21 miles from Phoenicia through Hunter and Tannersville to Catskill Mountain Station. These roads, the Stony Clove & Catskill Mountain and the Kaaterskill Railroad, eventually merged with the U&D. They became standard-gauge before the turn of the century and were abandoned in 1940.

In the 1880's, several large hotels were built and the railroads from Phoenicia served them. They were also served by a line from Catskill. When the Hotel Kaaterskill burned in 1924, the U&D lost its largest customer. There were convenient connections with New York City via the West Shore. The area served by the U&D had over 20,000 rooms for tourists. Today, the Catskill Mountains are not what they once were. The old hotels are all gone. Campers fill campgrounds but city dwellers don't take trains to the mountains.

Fleischmann's marks the beginning of the Delaware & Ulster Rail Ride. The station there is freshly painted and there is an old boxcar next to it. The real hub of the rail ride is Arkville. Arkville was once a real rail junction where the Delaware & Northern connected with the Ulster & Delaware. The Delaware & Northern was a bridge line to the Ontario & Western at East Branch. A lot of interesting equipment has been trucked here. There is an ex-Western Maryland GE 44-tonner. There are three Pullman green ex-Pennsylvania MP-54 "owl eye" m.u. coaches and two open air flat cars with benches. There is also some maintenance-of-way equipment, an engine house, station and snack bar. An ALCO S-4 switcher is a recent addition. There is a Brill Rail Car built in 1928 which is diesel-powered and pulls a trailer coach. This is similar to the "Red Heifer" which ran over the Delaware & Northern. The ex-New York Central "doodlebug" M-405 is painted Cornell red and has gold lettering. Bellayre ski center, which is operated by NY State, is located near Arkville. Can't help but think ski trains from New York (Hoboken?) wouldn't make a lot of sense. This area once had several large hotels. Now, small motels are the rule. At Arkville, we turn on to Route 10 and head to Roxbury. In this area are many new vacation homes, many of them log cabins. Roxbury was the early home of Jay Gould. His daughter contributed a significant amount of money to this community.

From Grand Gorge, the roadbed follows Route 23 to Stamford.

The station in Stamford is freshly painted and has a baggage cart outside it. There is also a coal tower and an Agway store nearby. Stamford is 19 miles to Richmondville, 21 miles to Delhi and 27 miles to Oneonta. At Stamford, the tracks follow Route 10 to Bloomville. Originally, the railroad was to go to Oneonta through Harpersfield instead of through Bloomville. Six miles of grading from Stamford was actually done. The rail line from Stamford to Hobart was originally built as a "branch".

Next stop on the line is Hobart where a Sheffield Farms processing plant which is long gone used to be the major industry. Further down the line an old Sheffield Farms creamery remains. Milk from this area went into New York City by train. This plant is between Bloomville and South Kortright and is now a garage. The railroad lost its milk business as highways were improved and glass-lined milk trucks carry milk in bulk shipments. In Bloomville, an Agway marks the end of most-recent train service. The Rail Ride owns the right-of way to Bloomville.

I then took a 9-mile detour to Delhi to visit relatives. The Ontario & Western ran a branch here from Walton until its demise that served a dairy plant. A line to Andes and on to Margaretville from Delhi was never built, but the intended roadbed can be seen in several spots.

Rejoining the U&D roadbed at Bloomville, I follow a county road to East Meridith. The nine miles down the Kortright Creek valley to Davenport Center drop 600 feet. Davenport Center was the terminus of the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley. This road was completed in 1890 and had as its prime goal the transportation of hotel passengers to Cooperstown. When the U&D only reached Bloomville, stages connected the two lines. After 1903, when the D&H absorbed the C&CV, passengers changed at Oneonta and service from Cooperstown Junction to Davenport Center was discontinued except for freight which lasted until 1930.

West Davenport and the former junction with the D&H at Oneonta which is covered up by construction from I-88 round out my tour of the Ulster & Delaware. Even with stops, I had beaten the four hours that the timetable of 25 years ago allowed to travel the 104 miles from Kingston to Oneonta. At that time, the prevailing speed was 30 MPH.

The railroad was built in stages and later abandoned in stages. In 1870 it only ran to Shandaken, by 1872 it reached Roxbury and made it to Stamford by 1875. Hobart was reached in 1884. Bloomville became the end of the line in 1891. Oneonta, the final goal, was reached in 1900. In 1965, the 21 miles from Oneonta to Bloomville were abandoned. A 2.6 mile section at the far end was sold to an Oneonta group for use as a tourist line. When Interstate 88 was built, this trackage was in its path. The tourist line then acquired the D&H Cooperstown branch and remains today as the Delaware Otsego Railroad. Regular service after 1965 only extended to Stamford, with service to South Kortright and Bloomville only on an "as needed" basis.

The state of the line past Bloomville has deteriorated greatly since abandonment, but trestles are still up. An old bridge is used by a farmer to cross his cows over a creek. He has installed gates on either side of the bridge.

It is hard to believe that the deserted railroad was such a hub of activity in the early part of this century. There were almost forty locomotives at that time, the last one being added in 1907. While the railroad owned only a few passenger cars, it was able to carry 338,000 passengers in 1903 and 676,000 in 1913 by renting New York Central cars in the summer. Likewise, the railroad's relatively few freight cars (peak was 270) could never have carried the load that ran between Kingston and Oneonta. Anthracite coal traffic was the biggest item of revenue freight and the U&D didn't have to provide cars for this. Excessive dividends before 1923 coupled with failure to provide for repayment of bonds caused financial troubles for the railroad in the late 1920's. Decrease in both passengers and anthracite coal traffic spelled doom for the railroad. In 1932, the Interstate Commerce Commission "twisted the arm" of the New York Central to take over the Ulster & Delaware.

In 1986, the Delaware & Ulster Rail Ride was unable to run trains because it could not obtain liability insurance. The Rail Ride is owned by the seven towns along the right-of-way. The supervisors of these towns (included in both Delaware and Ulster counties) are members of the Catskill Rail Committee which controls the Rail Ride. Ironically, the directors of the first railroad company organized in 1866, the Rondout & Oswego, were representatives of some of these same towns which had pledged money towards its construction. Until a recent non-profit corporation was formed, insurance coverage was dependent upon the towns themselves. Now the Rail Ride, operating under a State charter, actually owns the property and can more easily obtain insurance. The right of way past Arkville needs a lot of tree cutting. A large supply of rails is stored in Arkville. Could this mean expansion? The Catskill Rail Committee aims high, they want to run from Bloomville to Kingston again.

By Ken Kinlock at kenkinlock@gmail.com

Find out about Challenge and Fair Promise

affiliate_link
Corsica Ferry
English

Traveling in Europe?
You will probably need to make a FERRY RESERVATION.


Réservation Ferry en français
Stop by and see our Reservations Center.
Corsica Ferry
French

Have you heard about WAZZ UB

It morphed into MY PERFECT INTERNET



The World Wide Web is the future and it is our VISION to create a PERFECT INTERNET for all.

Nowadays, you have to click and scroll and waste a lot of time to find what you are really looking for. The big search engines, communities and email services collect your data to serve you with tons of unwanted advertising and to sell your data. Your mailbox is full of spam and spyware/malware is always around the corner.

In our VISION, we create a HOME for a GLOBAL FAMILY of users, where your DATA is SAFE and where you find all the USEFUL SERVICES that you need at your fingertips.

Imagine a company that is not only LISTENING to but DRIVEN BY its MEMBERS. A company that is SHARING SUCCESS and CREATING JOBS all around the world...

Welcome to the PERFECT INTERNET!

Sign up for your Perfect Internet Home Page today!

Supply Chain Control Tower

Supply Chain Management Control Towers



Control towers are used in many industries for different purposes: airports and railroads use them for traffic control; power plants have control rooms to monitor operations; and third party logistics providers use them to track transportation activities. These are places where operations run well. Why not a

“SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT CONTROL TOWER"

in order to monitor and assure your supply? Talk to us, we build them!

So just what is an SCM Control Tower? What are the functions of a Supply Chain Control Tower? Who staffs your Supply Chain Management Control Tower?

If you use an EDI VAN for your business, this message is for you. Move past the ancient VAN technology. JWH EDI Services Electronic Commerce Messaging System will bring your EDI operation into the 21st Century. The power of our global EDI network is available on your server, your cloud platform or your application. AND you cannot beat our prices.
You can connect and communicate with all your customers and trading partners through the JWH EDI Services Electronic Commerce Messaging System - Connect with trading partners around the world on a single Network-as-a-Service platform, get real-time transaction visibility and eliminate those manual network processes. It is a pay as you need model. We track all interchanges from the moment they enter the system, along every step across the network, and through the delivery confirmation.

How can we help you? Contact us: Ken Kinlock at kenkinlock@gmail.com
The "The Catskill Mountain Branch" was published in June, 1987
in the CALLBOARD of the Mohawk and Hudson Chapter of the National Railway Historical Society.
affiliate_link
New York City Water Supply

Gilboa Dam
Part of New York City's Water Supply.

This system runs throughout the Catskill Mountains.

New York City Water Supply



In 1842, Croton water arrived in the city, superseded the use of springs in Manhattan.
1927 saw the completion of the Catskill system plus city tunnel #1
1965 marked completion of the Delaware reservoir system
Today there are three watersheds: Croton, Catskil, Delaware; covering 2000 sq miles.
The system consists of 18 reservoirs
Three tunnels connect the city to the reservoirs (3rd tunnel under construction)
Water takes about 1 day to reach the city (flow velocity: 5 miles/h)

Throughout this century, the New York City water supply system has been the envy of virtually all major drinking water supply systems around the country and throughout the world. This system is one of the engineering marvels of the modern world. Ninety-seven percent of the water supplied to the city travels by gravity, meaning changes in electrical energy costs do not affect the cost of water. The supply tunnels and aqueducts that feed water to New York City are amazing in themselves.

Read more about New York City water supply.
New York City Water Supply New York City Water Supply
New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

New York City Water Supply

affiliate_link
Powered by WebRing.

Find out about Fun and Fair Promise

Nice Port

We Publish Four Daily Blogs
What Else DO We Do?"

Yes, see our blogs: Penney Vanderbilt; KC Jones; Ancien Hippie; and Crazy Pasta Child.

We manage public relations campaigns for major corporations
(1) New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority's SECOND AVENUE SUBWAYimplementation
(2) Florida East Coast Railway's on ALL ABOARD FLORIDA implementation

We work with corporations submitting RFP's (REQUEST FOR PRICES) to United States Government Agencies
An example is FEED THE TROOPS at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base


We sell heritage CD's from a large collection
Penney Vanderbilt
Penney Vanderbilt
Ancien Hippie
Ancien Hippie
Crazy Pasta Child
and Crazy Pasta Child
KC Jones
KC Jones
Penney Vanderbilt
Penney Vanderbilt
The boss
"The Boss"
Pictures of our BlOggers / Writers
Travel Reservations Center
Make your Reservations!
Visit our

Travel Reservations & Information Center

Travel Reservations Center
See Our Partners
Track 61
Here is a picture of Track 61. See what is so mysterious about Track 61 at Grand Central Terminal.. Also find out about a railroad that did NOT make it to Conrail: The New York & Harlem. Find out about Metro-North.
New York Central Branch from DeKalk Junction to Ogdensburg, In 1861, the Potsdam & Watertown line merged into the Watertown&Rome, the name of the new railroad was changed to Rome, Watertown&Ogdensburg, and a 19-mile line built from DeKalb Junction to Ogdensburg. It lasted until the 1980's. Read the whole story.
On June 13, 1845 the Troy & Greenbush Railroad opened between Troy and Greenbush, NY. It is the last link in an all-rail line between Boston and Buffalo. See more random dates in railroad history.
Isn't it amazing how much we all remember (and have forgotten about the NY Central)? 40 plus years? OMG, we rode parlors to Chatham and sleepers to the Adirondacks. Geez, we remember a lot. Why is all this stuff gone? Why did we have a PC and a Conrail.
Railroads in New York State

All-time list of railroad names in New York State

Some interesting things about New York State Railroads, mostly New York Central Railroad

Railroad Biographies

Head End


Railway Express and Railway Post Office
REA RPO Header On passenger trains, railroads operated lots of equipment other than sleepers, coaches, dining cars, etc. This equipment was generally called 'head-end' equipment, these 'freight' cars were at one time plentiful and highly profitable for the railroads. In the heyday of passenger service, these industries were a big part of the railroad's operations, and got serious attention.
We have text and pictures not found elsewhere on the Web.


Visit the Trains On The Internet Home

Join Trains On The Internet Webring

[ Previous|Next]
[Skip Next |Next 5 Sites |Random Site |List Sites ]

affiliate_link
milk train

Once upon a time, milk trains were important

New York Central Milk Business
Creamery in South Columbia, New York
There were two basic types of milk trains – the very slow all-stops local that picked up milk cans from rural platforms and delivered them to a local creamery, and those that moved consolidated carloads from these creameries to big city bottling plants. Individual cars sometimes moved on lesser trains. These were dedicated trains of purpose-built cars carrying milk. Early on, all milk was shipped in cans, which lead to specialized "can cars" with larger side doors to facilitate loading and unloading (some roads just used baggage cars). In later years, bulk carriers with glass-lined tanks were used. Speed was the key to preventing spoilage, so milk cars were set up for high speed service, featuring the same types of trucks, brakes, communication & steam lines as found on passenger cars.
Penn Central New Haven Railroad New York Central Railroad Once train service existed to the Catskill Mountains as far as Oneonta on the Central New England Railway. Actually it was probably the NY&NE at that point. A parlor car left Boston and went through Hartford to Canaan, Lakeville, Poughkeepsie. It went across the bridge and New York Central picked it up in Campbell Hall. From there it went to Kingston and put on a U&D train.
Interested in Penn Central? New York Central? Pennsylvania Railroad? New Haven Railroad? or in the smaller Eastern US railroads? Then you will be interested in "What if the Penn Central Merger Did Not Happen". You will also enjoy "Could George Alpert have saved the New Haven?" as well as "What if the New Haven never merged with Penn Central?"

Just Around the Corner by Bertrande H. Snell

Bertrande H. Snell, author of the following article, a native of Parish, Oswego County, N.Y., was a telegrapher all his working life. For many years he was employed by the New York Central Railroad, and for 33 years was a telegrapher for Western Union in Syracuse.

Bertrande Snell commenced his writing career with the Syracuse Syracuse Post-Standard in 1945 and continued it until shortly before his death in 1949. His columns were primarily of a reminiscent or historical nature, which included railroad stories.

If you like his column, we have more.
Post-Standard, Syracuse, NY Nov. 18, 1945

Just Around the Corner
By Bertrande Snell

Engineer Cotter eased open old 2165's throttle and No. 21, the northbound local slid slowly out of Salina yards. Barney Fiddler was fireman; hop, Loren Look, the conductor, and the flagman was Denny Haley. Fred Mug was the head "shack" and Dick Jones rode the cubicle.

Here was a sextet of hard-bitten railroaders ready for any emergency, and fearful, neither of "Hell, or high water." They drifted into Liverpool about 6:45 a.m. and unloaded a bit of merchandise on agent Jimmy Dial's platform; then whizzed through Woodard on operator Richardson's "highball," and jolted into Clay Station.

Here the agent, Charlie Zoller, had some switching for them, and they worked at this for some 30 minutes. The previous night had ben bitterly cold, the thermometer falling to 25 below zero in this section, but when the the local left Clay, about 8 a.m., the weather had moderated, and snow was falling steadily. there was a stiff wind from the northwest and the snow was beginning to drift.

There was a halt at Brewerton, where engineman Cotter gave his steed a "drink" from the water tower. "We'll never make Richland if she don't let up," he said, as he stamped into the station, where telegrapher Coon Rogers was getting train orders from Oswego.

"Hell," said Conductor Look, "we won't never make it anyway, if that double diagnosed dispatcher don't get his nit-wits together an' get us out o' here - what's he say, Coon?'

"Here y'are," said the operator at last, "meet No. 4 at Mallory, an' don't waste no time at Central Square - get out o'here, now an' step off it."

They dug out of Brewerton through the blinding storm, which grew worse by the minute. Sherman Coville at Central Square had his instructions to highball them over the O&W intersection without delay, and the train limped into mallory and onto the siding, as Courbat's noon whistle sounded.

--And there the train of 13 cars remained for two weeks; for this was the beginning of the Big Storm of March 5, 1904, and Oswego county's greatest blizzard was in full swing.

After No. 4, due in Syracuse at 12:50 p.m. arrived seven hours late that evening, not a wheel turned on the Hojack between Salina and Richland for five days. In some of the "cuts" the snow was drifted to the tops of the telegraph poles, after the storm had blown itself out - which did not happen until snow had fallen violently and continuously for more than 72 hours.

The crew of the local waited in the Mallory depot until No. 4 struggled in from the north, with a rotary snow-plow trying to keep the rails clear ahead of it. Then, they all came back to Syracuse, with the exception of fireman Barney Fiddler, whose mother resided at Mallory, a short distance from the depot.

Next morning, when I came down from Jim Jackson's where I was boarding, to open the depot, the snow was piled to the top of the waiting room door, and all the windows on the west side were completely drifted in. The train dispatcher at Oswego issued instructions for all telegraphers to remain on continuous duty in readiness for emergencies. So there we were, with nothing to do - and 50 miles of rails covered with seven feet of snow on the level!

We recall that this was a halcyon period for Jerome Fiddler, the old track walker, who lived just across from the station. He, too, was happily idle for more than a week, while, as he confided in me:

"Me pay keeps travelin' right along, glory be!"

Well, after a couple of days it stopped snowing and some of the boys from the mile-distant village tramped out a single-file foot path through the drifts and came over to see what was doing. There were Lyman Hoyt, Tobe Robinson, Len Snow, George Courbat, Lester Fiddler and others, who formed a sort of parade as they plodded along the cavernous path to the depot, where I had been alone in my lack of glory for all too long.

Fireman Fiddler hit upon a happy expedient to add to the jollity of nations. He discovered some barrels of beer in the freight house, which had arrived just before the storm made all deliveries impossible. This beverage had frozen solidly in the kegs, so Barney heated a poker in the stove, knocked in a bung, inserted the red-hot poker and pushed mightily toward the center of the keg.

The amber liquid which oozed forth as a result of this operation was of sweetish taste, not at all unpleasant, nd its potency was of that variety known as HIGH. Then we all gathered around the crimson-bellied stove in the waiting room, played a little poker; drank a little (?) nectar, told a little list of stories - and had, in general, a heck of a good time!

Finally, five days after the storm had started, a big snow-plow, pushed by two locomotives, left Salina and made the 21-mile trip to Mallory in a little over two days. Another plow left Richland at about the same time, and they finally met near Parish. Thus, the line was cleared for passenger traffic, and soon, matters began to shape normally.

In a section noted for its violet storms, this was easily the fiercest and longest continued of any within the memories of the oldest citizens at that time - and it has had no serious competitors since.

Of that salty and valiant train crew, which left Salina on that stormy morning in 1904; of all the agents and telegraphers I have mentioned here; of all the others who have appeared - there remain to survive, only Denny Haley of Syracuse, and this narrator; I to reminisce in my wandering way; and he, perhaps, to verify the tale, or point out its inaccuracies.

So, Denny, let's give each other three rousing cheers - and I'll say:

"Give 'er the gun, hoghead, the Big Roundhouse is Just Around the Corner!"
affiliate_link

The New York Central Railroad

See some historic photographs of the New York Central Railroad. First-generation diesels! Passenger and freight runs. Much more!

The New York Central Railroad

The Southern New York Railway: Interurban Electric between Oneonta and the Mohawk Valley. Oneonta connections New York Central Railroad and Delaware & Hudson Railroad

Why New York Central acquired U&D


The NYC controlled the Big Four and the Michigan Central though majority stock ownership, but up to 1930 the companies were operated as separate railroads. NYC wanted to lease the properties and operate them as part of the New York Central System, essentially a merger but not an outright purchase.

The ICC appears to have approved the leases contingent on NYC also purchasing or in some way assuring continued operation of the Ulster and Delaware. The CCC&StL and MC leases became effective early in 1930, but there was considerable difference between the offering and asking price for the U&D. Finally the U&D trustee and the NYC agreed on $2,500,000.00, the amount recommended by an arbitrator for the ICC, and the deal was effective on Feb. 1, 1932.

Remember, at that time the U&D was a Class I Railroad!! The criteria for inclusion in that exalted category were much lower in 1932.

The rest of the story, related by Gerry Best in his U&D book and which corresponds with records I have seen, is the nasty little "secret." Apparently, the U&D had a funded debt represented by a series of mortgage bonds, and there was a sinking fund of cash that would have been adequate to redeem the bonds on maturity. The cash is said to have come largely from transactions and settlements with the City of New York over takings and delays associated with construction of the Esopus Reservoir.

It appears that the Coykendall family, almost the only stockholders of the U&D, decided to take the sinking fund and use it instead for one whopping dividend in the middle 1920's. They essentially stripped the railroad of its cash. Revenues were dropping and expenses were climbing, so they probably decided to bail out while the money was still there. The bonds missed a payment and lost their value, and thus ensued the mechinations with the receivership and sale.

Lawsuits continued, and eventually the creditors did fairly well considering the depression.

Another great contribution from Gordon Davids
Snow Belt in New York State Boonville Station

There is a "Snow Belt" in New York State that runs above Syracuse and Utica. It goes East from Oswego to at least Boonville. Here's the station at Boonville.

Find out more about Weather around the World

Ominous Weather is about more than weather. Its about our environment. Its about our social issues that need to be surfaced if we want to save our environment. See Champions of our Environment like Al Gore SAS le Prince Albert II de Monaco John R. Stilgoe Ralph Nader. We have addressed several railroad-related projects that will conserve fuel and lessen pollution. Our Window on Europe spotlights projects that can help the rest of the World.
We have other environmental sites on garbage trucks and Rapid response temporary shelters / portable housing.
Railroad WebRing
© WebRing Inc.
Railroad WebRing
<< Prev | Ring Hub | Join | Rate| Next >>
Crossing a bridge

1955 Freight Schedules in Kingston

The Wallkill Valley wayfreight made a round trip 6 days per week to Campbell Hall, with some local traffic (like cattle feed) and a lot of empties to interchange to the New Haven. Sometime he handled more than 50-60 cars to Campbell Hall.

The Catskill Mountain Branch wayfreight ran to Oneonta Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and returned the next day. Sometimes he had 30-40 cars, mostly cattle feed, for stations west of Arkville. Very little interchange at Oneonta with the D&H - usually a few loads of anthracite for local stations, and an occasional car of house freight or Cadillacs for Oneonta.

The Catskill Mountain Branch Yard Engine worked the former U&D yard, and spent all day, six days per week, serving local industries with all sorts of stuff in 1955. The track to the Colonial Sand and Gravel Co. cement mill hadn't been built yet (1958) but when it started up it took 20-35 cars of bituminous coal per day from the CMB Yard job. The West Shore crews also had a Kingston yard engine that served local industries as well as switching in the yard.

There were north end and south end drop trains running on the West Shore main out of Kingston, and the Alsen Switcher out of Kingston was good for 40-60 cars of cement and coal on a good day.

(Story is an abstract from Railroad Net Forums)

Gordon Davids tells a great story about snow plows on the branch:


The first 8000's I saw on the CMB were the 8000 and 8004. They were MU'ed on the snow plow extra that ran to Oneonta on February 20, 1958, and derailed on the return at South Gilboa on February 21. They were close to brand new at the time.

I don't think they were randomly selected from power on hand at Kingston, and they might have come from Selkirk for that assignment. That job was set up as a trip to "Terra Incognita," with two complete train crews. They had the plow (if forget the number, but it was a right-handed double-track Russel plow - big mistake - the two engines, the Kingston flanger and two cabeese. I'm pretty sure that they were particular to give it the best power they had available, because the operation was sponsored by A.E. Perlman himself in response to requests by several high-ranking New York State politicians to provide for the starving cows.

The plow and the 8000 derailed trying to push snow up the wrong side of a side hill cut behind the Blue Silo Farm between South Gilboa and Stamford. The cut had drifted full after they opened it the night before. I worked my first day for the New York Central, February 21, 1958, on the Oneonta Section Gang shoveling out the plow and the engine.

After that, the 8000's ran to Oneonta on very rare occasions for several years, and then they became more common. By the way, when the plow derailed, they brought up the Selkirk wreckers to rerail it with the X-21 crane. That train had two FA-1's on it, lead by the 1032. According to scuttlebutt at the time, that was the first time the CMB had ever seen a cab unit. They also pushed a Jordan spreader, and they had to re-open the track from Grand Gorge to the wreck before they could go back to Grand Gorge and get the crane.
Powered by WebRing.
affiliate_link
Rotary plow
Railroads and Snow

See some historic photographs of the railroads in snow. Rotary plows in snow! Great stories of railroad action in Winter!

Bloomville Station
Bloomville Station

See more about Bloomville

From our postcard collection
Our HAND TOOL WebSite is intended in aiding you to locate HAND TOOL suppliers. You may search by product or by manufacturer. We add both products and manufacturers, so keep checking back. In addition we are a full service MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Operational Supplies) supplier. If you are in the construction or farming business, we are your source.
GlobalHighway The Global Highway:
Interchange to Everywhere
A portal to the World. The Global Highway leads everywhere! Follow it to wherever you might want to go. We have something for everyone!
Travel and Penney's greatlinks!
Rails Around New York State

A trip around New York State with stories about the railroads encountered.


Albany to Utica was an important piece of the original New York Central and is now just as important to CONRAIL and to AMTRAK.
The Schenectady to Saratoga railroad reached the small town of Ballston Spa in 1832. Soon the Rensselaer & Saratoga would also pull in. Eventually, these would fall under the Delaware & Hudson. Several street car lines also ran into the spa too.
Mechanicville: Rail Town.
The bike path between Troy and Albany was once an operating railroad - the T&S branch of the New York Central. Also section on unbroken long-distance trolley trips.
Sharing the Water Level Route with the New York Central, was the West Shore Railroad, first as a competitor, later as a subsidiary

VISION 2020: A View of Procurement in 2020


A lot of us in the supply chain probably missed this because maybe we regarded it as an advertisement or because a 42-page document is not what we have time for in our busy days. Ariba joined forces with leading procurement practitioners and influencers to begin a dialogue on the future of procurement and to create a road map for how to get there.
The report is intended not as an end, but rather as a point of departure for much discussion and debate around where procurement can and should be setting its sights for the year 2020 and beyond.
Their “ho hum crasher” is dramatic: The procurement function — as you know it — will no longer exist in 2020!
Several years ago I wrote a story on the major railroads of 1950 and what happened to them.

Now I am following up with a closer examination of the New York Central Railroad. This railroad only lasted until 1968 when it merged into Penn Central.

But, what was the NY Central Railroad like in 1950?

You will also be interested in "What if the Penn Central Merger Did Not Happen"
Ominous Ecology

Greenland's ice caps are melting! Find out more about Global Warming at our Ominous Ecology WebSite.

EDI Tool Box What is EDI?
EDI Mapping
AS2
Blogs about EDI and eCommerce
Financial EDI
EDI with the Government
Electronic Commerce Communications Providers
EDI and EC Vendors
EDI Project Management
Transportation EDI
History of EDI
Unique Global Identity for EDI Messages
Who wrote all this good stuff?

Strange Places on the Catskill Mountain Branch

Snyder Hollow Switch (between Phoenicia and Shandaken)was a single spur about 650' long near MP 29

The ski trains were in the 1930's, but the spur shows up on the 1916 Valuation map and also appears in the 1906 U&D films from the Library of Congress. In the film the spur is lined with stacks of what appear to be slabs of blue stone. There is a box car on the spur and it looks like they are loading the car with the stone. There must have been a quarry nearby.

Its where "Muddy Bushkill" runs into Esopus creek. The siding was for the ski area there. This was one of the very first ski areas in the US.
"Hanford's Switch" (between Kortright and East Meredith). Hanford's Switch was about one-half mile east of East Meredith (Station No. 98A). It was later the site of Pizza Brothers' Feed Mill, the successor to Hanford's Mill and the site of the present museum.
There were quite a number of dairy & creamery turnouts along the entire line.

Cold Spring MP56;

Delaware Valley MP61;

Keators Milk Switch MP62;

Dairyman's League MP81;

Smiths Creamery #1 MP83;

Sheffield MP86; and

Smith's #2 MP94.
China National Heavy Duty Truck Group Wuyue

Seen this garbage truck in your neighborhood yet?

China National Heavy Duty Truck Group Wuyue Special.Vehicle.Co., Ltd. focuses on development, manufacture and marketing of Howo trucks.

We market Howo trucks in more than 50 countries and districts all over the world. Founded in 1935, We are the oldest and largest heavy-duty truck producer in China and have subsidiaries all over the world including truck factories, diesel engine factories, axle factories.

See us for the largest selection of used garbage trucks: all makes and all models!

Contact us at kinlock@hotmail.com Links to railroad Sites
eXTReMe Tracker
index sitemap advanced
site search by freefind
This WebSite is a member of the OMINOUS WEATHER Group (which also includes Kingly Heirs, JWH EDI, Barry's Best, EDI Tool Box, Weathertopia, Vacation French Riviera, WebRing Railroads). Privacy. Terms of Use. Free online link checker - test your links
ICANN's Registrants' Benefits and Responsibilities LinkedIn ICANN's Registrant Educational Information